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Integrated Seniority List Q & A’s

QUESTION & ANSWERS:

8.07.14 Questions:

Q1. What was the primary rule for integrating the two lists? Was there a guiding principle used in integrating the two lists?

Q2. Why was there an adjustment to the seniority date of LAA Flight Attendants?

Q3. How did APFA arrive at the 40-day adjustment? 

Q4. Why didn’t each Flight Attendant receive an individual adjustment based on their actual AA class start date?

Q5. How can I check to see that my current Occupational Seniority date has the accurate 40-day adjustment?

Q6.  Who do I contact if I have a question about my position on the new integrated seniority list, such as a clerical error?

Q7. When will we actually use the new list?

Q8. Does this change anything related to pay or other benefits (for example, Classification or Company seniority)?

Q1. What was the primary rule for integrating the two lists? Was there a guiding principle used in integrating the two lists?
A1. Yes. The primary rule was that the relative order on each list could not change. In other words, no one junior to you on your list now could be senior to you as a result of the integration.
 
Q2. Why was there an adjustment to the seniority date of LAA Flight Attendants?
A2. LAA Flight Attendants bid with their Occupational Seniority date, which is initially determined by the first date they are placed on payroll following training. By contrast, LUS Flight Attendants bid with their Seniority Integration Date (SID), which is based on the first date in training. In order to account for this difference, LAA Flight Attendants had an adjustment to make their seniority date earlier. The adjustment was 40 days for all American Flight Attendants hired prior to January 1, 2013. The adjustment for American Flight Attendants hired on or after January 1, 2013, reflects the first date in training.
 
Q3. How did APFA arrive at the 40-day adjustment?  
A3. The APFA Board of Directors worked hard to find a fair method to compensate all LAA Flight Attendants for the difference in seniority start date without changing the current order of Flight Attendants on our list. APFA researched the AA class start date for each LAA Flight Attendant and the length of time each Flight Attendant attended AA new hire training prior to January 1, 2013. The average training time for all LAA Flight Attendants attending AA new hire training prior to January 1, 2013 was 40 days. The APFA Board decided the adjustment of 40 days for all LAA Flight Attendants hired prior to January 1, 2013, was the most equitable way to ensure that the relative order of Flight Attendants did not change.

Q4. Why didn’t each Flight Attendant receive an individual adjustment based on their actual AA class start date?
A4. The primary rule governing this seniority integration was that the relative order of the list could not change. Because of the many variations in the length of time between class start dates and the first day the Flight Attendants were placed on payroll. and seniority adjustments due to leaves, etc. there would be no way to make the individual adjustments and still maintain the current relative order.
 
Q5. How can I check to see that my current Occupational Seniority date has the accurate 40-day adjustment?
A5. You can use an entry in Sabre to verify the adjustment.
T[] ([] = change key) current OCC Date – 40 enter
Example:  T[]1JUN90-40 [enter]
The result is:  22APR90
 
You can find your current Occupational Seniority date listed in your HI8 in DECS or on the current Occupational Seniority list posted on the Seniority Integration page of the APFA website.
 
If you do not have access to DECS, you can search for an online calculator such as http://www.timeanddate.com/date/dateadd.html.

Q6.  Who do I contact if I have a question about my position on the new integrated seniority list, such as a clerical error?
A6.  Send an email to [email protected]. Please include your name, employee number, Occupational Seniority Date as reflected on the new list, your date of birth, a clear explanation of what error you believe exists and what you think your Occupational Seniority Date should be. The deadline to send an email is September 9, 2014.
 
Q7. When will we actually use the new list?
A7. The list will not be used until there is a joint contract and a Single Operating Certificate. In addition, Flight Attendants will need to be integrated into a single Crew Management system (e.g. FOS). It is currently expected that we will reach a joint contract this fall or by early 2015 at the latest. A SOC is expected to be granted in the 2nd quarter of 2015. It will take until approximately mid-2016 before all Flight Attendants are in a single crew management system.
 
Q8. Does this change anything related to pay or other benefits (for example, Classification or Company seniority)?
A8. No. This date is used only for bidding, such as a monthly trip bidding, proffers, vacations, leaves, etc.

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Chat APFA

After-Hours Live Chat
M-F: 3:00PM - 11:00 PM (CT)
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APFA Events

Financial Planning Seminar

March 7 @ 11:00 am - 1:00 pm

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APFA Headquarters
1004 West Euless Boulevard
Euless, Texas 76040

M-F: 9:00AM - 5:00PM (CT)
Phone: (817) 540-0108

Call APFA

Contract & Scheduling Desk
M-F: 7:00AM - 7:00PM (CT)
Phone: (817) 540-0108

Chat APFA

After-Hours Live Chat
M-F: 3:00PM - 11:00 PM (CT)
Sat-Sun: 9:00AM - 5:00PM (CT)

APFA Events

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2024 BOD Convention

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