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1.13.17 – (LAA) – Bidding and Vacation Removal LAA


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Bidding and Vacation Removal – LAA

Q1: Will I be removed from a trip with pay if it touches one of my vacation days?
A: Yes, you will be removed with full pay and credit if your trip touches one of your vacation days.

Q2: Will I be removed from a trip if the sign-in or debrief touches one of my vacation days?
A: Yes, you will be removed with full pay and credit if your sign-in or debrief touches one of your vacation days.

Q3: What will happen to my first trip in the new month if a vacation carryover trip directly overlaps it?
A: You will be removed without pay from that first trip of the month. The direct overlap will be treated as a schedule conflict.

Q4: What will happen to my first trip in the new month if it is scheduled to originate shortly thereafter my vacation carryover trip is scheduled to terminate?
A: You will be legal to fly that first trip in the new month so long as the time between the scheduled arrival of your carryover trip and the scheduled departure time of the first trip is no less than your applicable debrief period and sign-in combined. In other words, you will be considered “paper legal” for the first trip of the new month.

Example 1: International Carryover
Carryover trip is scheduled to arrive at 1200.
First leg of the first trip in the new month is scheduled to depart at 1335.
Add 30 minutes debrief from carryover and one hour sign-in for new trip = 1 hour and 30 minutes.
Amount of time in-between the two sequences = 1 hour and 35 minutes.
Flight Attendant is legal to fly the first trip of the new month, because 1 hour and 35 minutes is greater than 1 hour and 30 minutes.

Example 2: Domestic Carryover
Carryover trip is scheduled to arrive at 1400.
First leg of the fist trip in the new month is scheduled to depart at 1550.
Add 15 minutes debrief to carryover trip and one hour sign-in for first trip = 1 hour and 15 minutes.
Amount of time in-between the two sequences = 1 hour and 50 minutes.
Flight Attendant is legal to fly the first trip of the new month, because 1 hour and 50 minutes is greater than 1 hour and 15 minutes.

Example 3: Domestic Carryover
Carryover trip is scheduled to arrive at 0900.
First leg of the first trip in the new month is a deadhead leg, scheduled to depart at 1000.
Add 15 minutes debrief to carryover trip and 30 minutes sign-in for first trip = 45 minutes.
Amount of time in-between the two sequences = 1 hour.
Flight Attendant is legal to fly the first trip of the new month, because 1 hour is greater than 45 minutes.

Example 4: International Carryover
Carryover trip is scheduled to arrive at 1100.
First leg of the first trip in the new month is scheduled to depart at 1215.
Add 30 minutes debrief to the carryover trip and one hour sign-in for the first trip = 1 hour and 30 minutes.
Amount of time in-between the two sequences = 1 hour and 15 minutes.
Flight Attendant is not legal to fly the first trip of the new month, because 1 hour and 15 minutes is less than 1 hour and 30 minutes.

Q5: Will I be off for the entire day if my vacation carryover trip touches a reserve day (RSV) or an available day (AVBL)?
A: Your time off due to a vacation removal ends at the scheduled arrival of the carryover trip. See the “paper removal” concept explained in Q4 above.

Q6: What if I were to pick up a trip, from the Company or a Flight Attendant, that arrives immediately before or departs immediately after a trip I was removed from because of vacation, would I be legal to fly that trip?
A: You will be legal to fly any trip for which you are paper legal. See Q4 above to learn more about the “paper legal” concept.

Q7: If I were paper legal for a trip with a scheduled arrival before my vacation and that trip arrives later than scheduled in actual operations, would I still be paid for my first trip that touches my vacation?
A: If the trip arrives late to the point where you no longer have the minimum amount of time to be considered paper legal, you will not be paid for that first trip that touches your vacation. See Q4 above to learn more about the “paper legal” concept.

Daniel Koukes
APFA National Scheduling Chair
scheduling@apfa.org

 

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