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Voluntary Extension (VE) Examples

Domestic VE Examples

How it Works on Domestic Trips (Section 11.O)

  • VE is based on the greater of flight time, Duty Rig (One (1) minute of flight pay for each two (2) minutes on-duty) or callout pay for the duty period in which the VE occurred.
  • The Duty Rig is calculated from the actual duty day and not what is projected/rescheduled.

NOTE: The VE indicator will normally show on the first leg of the extended duty period but not on the other legs.  The VE indicator will convert to V3 when the extension exceeds 3 hours.

Example 1: Delay when flying a domestic turnaround resulting in VE pay.

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In this case the flight time (10.31 hrs) was greater than the Duty Rig (7:54 hrs) so the crew will receive 10.31 hrs of VE pay.

The paid hours for this sequence are:

   10.31 hrs  100% Pay and credit for the sequence
+10.31 hrs  Additional 100% VE pay
  21.02 hrs  Total pay

In this example, a diversion added flight time and on-duty time.  The additional time would have brought the duty day to 15.49 hrs (max 15 hrs). The crew accepted the duty waiver and Crew Tracking added the VE to the schedule.

The actual on-duty time was 15.49 hrs, where the Duty Rig of (1) minute of flight pay for each (2) minutes on-duty would be 7.54 hrs.

The flight time was 10.31 hrs.

VE pay will be an additional 100% of flight time, or Duty Rig, or callout pay (whichever is greater) for a total of 200% for the duty period.

VE - Greater Of:
Flight Time Duty Rig (1:2) Callout
10.31 15.49 (total duty) ÷ 2 = 7.54 (Duty Rig) 0

Example 1a: Delay of over 3 hours but less than 4 (V3 indicator in DECS)

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In this example, a delay added flight time and on-duty time.  The additional time would have brought the duty day to 18.14 hrs (max 15 hrs). The crew accepted the duty waiver and Crew Tracking added the VE to the schedule.

The actual on-duty time was 18.14 hrs, where the Duty Rig of (1) minute of flight pay for each (2) minutes on-duty time would be 9.07 hrs.

The flight time was 8.02 hrs.

Because the delay is more than 3hrs and less than 4hrs over operational max, the Voluntary Extension pay will have the V3 indicator.  VE pay will be an additional 200% of flight time, or Duty Rig, or callout pay (whichever is greater) for a total of 300% for the duty period.

VE - Greater Of:
Flight Time Duty Rig (1:2) Callout
8.02 18.14 (total duty) ÷ 2 = 9.07 (Duty Rig) 0

In this case the Duty Rig (9.07 hrs) was greater than the flight time (8.02 hrs) so the crew will receive 9.07x2 hrs of VE pay plus the regular pay for the duty period and trip.

The paid hours for this sequence are:

   20.43 hrs  100% Pay and credit for the sequence
+18.14 hrs  Additional 200% VE pay
  38.57 hrs  Total pay

Example 2: Delay when flying a multi-day domestic sequence resulting in VE pay on the 2nd day.

Ex2-VE-DomesticMulti-day

In this case the Duty Rig (6.15 hrs) was greater than the flight time (5.08 hrs) so the crew will receive 6.15 hrs of VE pay.

The paid hours for this sequence are:

  10.21 hrs   100% Pay and credit for the sequence
+  6.15 hrs  Additional 100% VE pay
  16.36 hrs  Total pay

In this example, the crew was delayed out of DFW on the 2nd day by 3 hrs. The additional time would have brought the duty day to 15.22 hrs (max 15 hrs). The crew accepted the duty waiver.

In actual operations the flight cancelled and the crew was released.

The actual on-duty time was 12.30 hrs.  The Duty Rig or 1 minute of pay for every 2 minutes on-duty (i.e. 1/2 of the total) is 6.15 hrs.

The flight time was 5.08 hrs.

VE pay will be an additional 100% of flight time, or Duty Rig, or callout pay (whichever is greater) for a total of 200% for the duty period.

VE - Greater Of:
Flight Time Duty Rig (1:2) Callout
5.08 12.30 (total duty) ÷ 2 = 6.15 (Duty Rig) 0

Example 3: A crew initially being projected to exceed duty limitations, accepting the VE offer, not exceeding on-duty maximum in actual operations, but receiving VE pay anyway.

Ex3-VE-Domestic-but-not-exceeded

In this case the flight time (8.41 hrs) was greater than the Duty Rig (7.27 hrs) so the crew will received 8.41 hrs of VE pay.

The paid hours for this sequence are:

  17.29 hrs   100% Pay and credit for the sequence
+  8.41 hrs  Additional 100% VE pay
  26.10 hrs  Total pay

In this example, the crew was delayed departing ORD by 2.30 hrs. The additional time would have brought the duty day to 15.25 hrs. (25 minutes over the operational on-duty maximum of 15 hours). The crew accepted the duty waiver.

In actual operations the crew underflew. Although the max on-duty was not exceeded, the VE (Voluntary duty waiver pay) still applies.

The actual on-duty time was 14.54 hrs where the Duty Rig of (1) minute of flight pay for each (2) minutes on-duty time would be 7.27 hrs.

The flight time was 8.41 hrs.

VE pay will be an additional 100% of flight time, or Duty Rig, or callout pay (whichever is greater) for a total of 200% for the duty period.

VE - Greater Of:
Flight Time Duty Rig (1:2) Callout
8.41 17.29 (total duty) ÷ 2 = 7.27 (Duty Rig) 0

Example 4: A crew who is legal to depart, overflies and ends up exceeding their on duty maximum, but does not receive VE pay.

Ex4-VE-Domestic-legal-at-depart-no-VE

In this example, while the crew was delayed departing ORD by 2.00 hrs they were still legal to complete the flight at departure time and therefore Crew Tracking did not offer VE.

In actual operations the crew overflew by 20 minutes on the last leg in the duty period. Even though this caused them to exceed the on duty maximum, VE pay is not applicable, since the crew was legal at time of departure.

International VE Examples

How it Works on International Trips (Section 14.D.1)

  • VE pay includes premiums.
  • On non-long range flying, maximum duty day of sixteen (16) hours may be waived to a maximum of twenty (20) hours. (14.D.1.b)
  • Non-long range flying is eligible for 300% pay and 100% credit when maximum duty day exceeds 19 hours up to a maximum of 20 hours. V3 indicator will show instead of VE if the extension is greater than three (3) hours.  
  • On mid-range flying, there is no volunteering for VE.  The 200% pay and 100% credit are automatically applied when actual operations exceed sixteen (16) hours. A Flight Attendant shall not be required to remain on-duty in excess of seventeen (17) hours.  
  • On long-range flying, you may waive your on-duty limitations up to a maximum of 19 hours.
  • On long-range flying, Flight Attendants accepting Crew Tracking’s offer to extend their duty day are paid 200% (100% credit), for all hours paid within the duty period they agreed to accept VE.

VE pay does not apply to extended long-range flying.

Example 1: A Non-Long Range international turnaround sequence where the crew is delayed on the return flight, accepts Crew Tracking’s offer of VE pay and is paid VE.

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In this case the flight time (11.14 hrs) was greater than the Duty Rig (8.15 hrs) so the crew will receive 11.14 hrs of VE pay.  

Total pay for the sequence: 11.14 hrs (100% trip) + 11.14 hrs (100% VE) = 22.28 hrs (200%).

Additionally, any premiums (i.e. international, purser, galley) would be paid an additional 100% (22.28 total hrs purser pay/ galley pay at the applicable rate).

The paid hours for this sequence are:

  11.14 hrs   100% Pay and credit for the sequence
+11.14 hrs  Additional 100% VE pay
  22.28 hrs  Total pay

A delay departing OGG was projecting the duty day to exceed the on-duty max (16 hours) for a non-long range sequence. VE was offered and the crew accepted the duty waiver.

The actual on-duty time was 16.30 hrs, where the Duty Rig of (1) minute of flight pay for each (2) minutes on-duty would be 8.15 hrs. 

The flight time was 11.14 hrs.

In actual operations the crew underflew by 14 minutes.  The flight time of the return leg is paid based on the greater of scheduled or actual, so the time on which the VE pay is based remains 5.10 hrs.

VE pay will be an additional 100% of flight time, or Duty Rig, or callout pay (whichever is greater) for a total of 200% for the duty period.

VE - Greater Of:
Flight Time Duty Rig (1:2) Callout
11.14 16.30 (total duty) ÷ 2 = 8.15 (Duty Rig) 0

Example 2: A Non-Long Range international turnaround sequence where the crew is delayed on the originating flight, accepts Crew Tracking’s offer of VE pay, ends up not exceeding their on-duty limitation, and is still paid VE.

Ex6-VE-International-non-long-but-not-exceeded-VE

In this case the flight time (11.14 hrs) was greater than the Duty Rig (7.39 hrs) so the crew will receive 11.14 hrs of VE pay.  

Total pay for the sequence: 11.14 hrs (100% trip) + 11.14 hrs (100% VE) = 22.28 hrs (200%).

Additionally, any premiums (i.e. international, purser, galley) would be paid an additional 100% (22.28 total hrs purser pay/ galley pay at the applicable rate). 

The paid hours for this sequence are:

  11.14 hrs   100% Pay and credit for the sequence
+11.14 hrs  Additional 100% VE pay
  22.28 hrs  Total pay

In this example, the crew was delayed out of LAX.. The additional time would have brought the duty day to 16.09 hrs. The crew accepted the duty waiver.

The actual on-duty time was 15.19 hrs, where the Duty Rig of (1) minute of flight pay for each (2) minutes on-duty would be 7.39 hrs. 

The flight time was 11.14 hrs.

In actual operations the crew under flew by 39 minutes.  The leg is paid based on the greater of scheduled or actual, so the time remains at 6.02 hrs. Even though in the end the crew did not exceed the max on-duty of 16 hrs, the VE (Voluntary duty waiver pay) still applies.

VE pay will be an additional 100% of flight time, or Duty Rig, or callout pay (whichever is greater) for a total of 200% for the duty period.

VE - Greater Of:
Flight Time Duty Rig (1:2) Callout
11.14 16.30 (total duty) ÷ 2 = 8.15 (Duty Rig) 0

Example 3: A crew working a multi-day Non-Long Range international sequence that is delayed on their 3rd day, agrees to VE pay, has their flight cancel, and still receives VE pay.

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The pay generated for the 3rd day came to 6.00 hrs. The crew will be paid 6 hrs at 200% for the 3rd day:  6 hrs (100% day 3) + 6 hrs (100% VE) = 12 hrs (200%).

In this case for the 3rd day, the Duty Rig (6.00 hrs) was greater than the flight time (5.52 hrs) so the crew will receive 6.00 hrs of VE pay.  

Total pay for the sequence: 23.31 hrs (100% trip) + 6.00 hrs (100% VE) = 29.31 hrs (200%).

Additionally, any premiums (i.e. international, purser, galley) would be paid an additional 100% for the VE duty period.

The paid hours for this sequence are:

  23.31 hrs  100% Pay and credit for the sequence
+ 6.00 hrs  Additional 100% VE pay
  29.31 hrs  Total pay

In this example, the crew was delayed out of MIA on the 3rd day by 3.30 hrs. The additional time projected the duty day over the maximum (16hrs)  to 16.28 hrs. VE was offered and the crew accepted the duty waiver.

The actual on-duty time was 12.00 hrs, where the Duty Rig of (1) minute of flight pay for each (2) minutes on-duty would be 6.00 hrs. 

The flight time was 5.52 hrs.

In actual operations the flight cancelled and the crew was released at 2230. Although the flight did not operate, the crew had agreed to exceed their on-duty limitation.  The VE pay still applies for that duty period.

VE pay will be an additional 100% of flight time, or Duty Rig, or callout pay (whichever is greater) for a total of 200% for the duty period.

 

VE - Greater Of:
Flight Time Duty Rig (1:2) Callout
5.52 12.00 (total duty) ÷ 2 = 6.00 (Duty Rig) 0

Example 4: A crew working a Non-Long Range sequence is delayed on the last leg of their second duty period. (This leg happens to be a domestic leg.) The crew agreed to extend their duty day and receive VE pay.

Ex8-VE-International-but-domestic-delay

The crew will be paid 12.07 hrs (100% trip) + 9.07 hrs (100% VE) = 21.14 hrs (200%).

Additionally, any premiums (i.e. international, purser, galley) would be paid an additional 100% (21.14 total hrs purser pay/ galley pay at the applicable rate). 

The paid hours for this sequence are:

  12.07 hrs 100% Pay and credit for the sequence
+9.07 hrs   Additional 100% VE pay
  21.14 hrs  Total pay

In this example, the crew was delayed out of MIA on the 2nd day by 4.27 hrs. The additional time projected the duty day over the maximum (16hrs) to 17.29 hrs. VE was offered and the crew accepted the duty waiver.

The actual on-duty time was 17.20 hrs where the Duty Rig of (1) minute of flight pay for each (2) minutes on-duty would be 8.40 hrs.

The flight time was 9.07 hrs.

VE pay will be an additional 100% of flight time, or Duty Rig, or callout pay (whichever is greater) for a total of 200% for the duty period.

VE - Greater Of:
Flight Time Duty Rig (1:2) Callout
9.07 17.20 (total duty) ÷ 2 = 8.40 (Duty Rig) 0

Example 5: A crew who is legal to depart, overflies and ends up exceeding their on-duty maximum, but does not receive VE pay.

Ex9-International-but-no-VE

In this example, the crew was delayed out of KOA by 2.00 hrs. The delay did not cause the crew to be scheduled beyond the 16.00 hrs on-duty maximum. The crew was legal for departure.

In actual operations the crew overflew by 30 minutes on the last leg.

Even though the max on-duty of 16 hrs had been exceeded by 14 minutes, the VE pay is not applicable, since the crew was legal at the time of departure.

Example 6: A crew working a Long-Range sequence who experiences a delay, agrees to waive to 19 hours, the flight ultimately cancels, and the crew receives VE pay calculated on call-out pay.

Ex10-Long-Range-with-Cancel-still-VE

The crew will be paid 3.00 hrs (100% call out pay) + 3.00 hrs (100% VE) = 6.00 hrs (200%).

The paid hours for this sequence are:

  3.00 hrs   100% Pay (callout pay is not credited)
+3.00 hrs  Additional 100% VE pay
  6.00 hrs  Total pay

his example, the crew boarded and the subsequent delay would have brought the duty day to 18:10 hrs. The crew accepted the duty waiver.

In actual operations the flight cancelled and the crew was released at 16:10. Although the flight did not operate, since the crew already agreed to exceed their on-duty limitation, they will receive VE pay for the duty period.

The actual on-duty time was 4.05 hrs where the Duty Rig of (1) minute of flight pay for each (2) minutes on-duty would be 2.02 hrs.

The flight time was 0.0 hrs.

VE pay will be an additional 100% of flight time, or Duty Rig, or callout pay (whichever is greater) for a total of 200% for the duty period.

The 3.00 hrs callout pay is greater of Duty Rig of 2.02 hrs or flight time which was 0 hrs.  The VE will be 3.00 hrs.

VE - Greater Of:
Flight Time Duty Rig (1:2) Callout
0 4.05 (total duty) ÷ 2 = 2.02 (Duty Rig) 3.00

Unique VE Situations

Example 1: VE on last day of month sequence, where pay only carries past midnight into the next month (11.D.7) VE is added to the month where sequence terminated.

Ex12-HSS-VE-LastDayOfMonth

In this example, the sequence terminated on May 1st, but with release at 00:08 hrs, some pay carries over into the next contractual month.  However, the VE pay is paid in the month where the sequence originated.

This sequence has 10.12 hrs regular pay (7.06 hrs on May 1st) and partially in the May contractual month (3.06 hrs on May 2nd). Total pay for the sequence is 10.12 hrs (7.06 hrs on May 1st and 3.06 hrs on May 2nd) + 10.12 hrs (VE) = 20.24 hrs.

The paid hours for this sequence are:

Sequence origination month (April):

     7.06 hrs  Pay and credit for the sequence
+10.12 hrs  VE pay
  17.18 hrs  Total pay (April)

Sequence carry over month (May):

 +3.06 hrs  Pay and credit for the carry over sequence
   3.06 hrs  Total pay (May)

 

In this example, the crew was delayed departing MCO by 2.19 hrs. The additional time would have brought the duty day to 15.37 hrs. (37 minutes over the operational on-duty maximum of 15 hours). The crew accepted the duty waiver.

In actual operations the crew underflew. Although the max on-duty was not exceeded, the VE (Voluntary duty waiver pay) still applies.

The actual on-duty time was 14.43 hrs where the Duty Rig of (1) minute of flight pay for each (2) minutes on-duty would be 7.21 hrs.

The flight time was 10.12 hrs.

VE pay will be an additional 100% of flight time, or Duty Rig, or callout pay (whichever is greater) for a total of 200% for the duty period.

VE - Greater Of:
Flight Time Duty Rig (1:2) Callout
10.12 14.43 (total duty) ÷ 2 = 7.21 (Duty Rig) 0

While the VE designator appears on the sequence, the actual VE pay will appear on your HI1.  You can see that the VE was paid on May 1st, during the April contractual month as ´VE PAY´.  However, as the sequence release time carried over into the next contractual month so 7.06 hrs of regular pay and credit were paid in the April HI1 and  3.06 hrs were paid in the May HI1.

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Example 2: VE on the day of a Double Up

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For this Double up, Seq. 31018 is overlapping with Seq. 14631 and on the duty period of overlap, the flight from CLT was delayed by 1.26 hrs.  The additional time would have brought the duty day to 15.05 hrs.  The Flight Attendant accepted the duty waiver.

With Double Ups, it is important ensure that Report and Release times are converted to the same time zone when calculating the length of the duty period.

In this case, the duty period where the VE duty waiver was accepted reported at SNA at 6:55 am Pacific Time.  It released in OMA at 00:02am Central Time.

The actual on-duty time was 15.07 hrs where the Duty Rig of (1) minute of flight pay for each (2) minutes on-duty would be 7.33 hrs.

The flight time was 8.18 hrs.

VE pay will be an additional 100% of flight time, or Duty Rig, or callout pay (whichever is greater) for a total of 200% for the duty period.

The paid hours for this sequence are:

  10.00 hrs   Pay and credit for Seq 31018
  23.32 hrs   Pay and credit for Seq 14631
+8.18 hrs  VE pay
  41.50 hrs  Total pay

VE - Greater Of:
Flight Time Duty Rig (1:2) Callout
8.18 15.07 (total duty) ÷ 2 = 7.33 (Duty Rig) 0
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